Comic: God vs. Gays (for children)

While very few people seem to have any objection to it, religious indoctrination is worst when it’s aimed at children.  Children will instinctively accept most information from parents and teachers.  In some ways, this is for good reason.  But in other cases, that trust is clearly betrayed.  Chick Publications has a comic strip that does a great job of illustrating this.  In a comic strip called Birds and the Bees, author Jack T. Chick presents some truly scary ideas, apparently aimed directly at children.  Here’s are some excerpts from the comic strip (click on the images if they’re hard to see – the facial expressions and homophobic imagery will make it worth it).

First, the setup:

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Apparently, Satan is far more tolerant than God (as is evidenced by his not-so-attractive agents in the background).  The teacher’s not looking all that great herself.  If I didn’t know better, I’d say that she’s going to Hell for sure (although God loves her and really doesn’t want it to come to that).  It gets far better.  These children – whose education is unfairly restricted by laws – start to discover the “truth” for themselves…

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There are so many comments to be made from just these few panels.  First off, these children are learning (indirectly) from one girl’s grandfather.  I think it’s same to assume that this guy isn’t the best source for objective information about morals (or even the Bible). 

The fear element, to me, is both the most effective and the most offensive.  Kids want to be good, right?  And Hell is bad, of course.  So, they must do whatever they can – no matter how immoral or unconscionable – to stay out of there.  Note how much anger and hatred God seems to have.  I don’t even need to get into the details of the paradoxes and logical contradictions here (God clearly created “the Gays”, and he’s awfully frustrated for someone who’s supposed to be all-powerful). 

If you find yourself convinced by the comic strip, you should consider filling out the little form at the bottom of the page.  For the rest of us, I guess we’ll have to keep supporting our Godless ways of tolerance, acceptance, and non-religious education.

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6 Comments

  1. jonolan said,

    February 8, 2008 at 8:33 am

    While I’m against religious indoctrination in schools, I’m also against unwarranted ideological indoctrination as well. The schools ARE attempting to push a homosexual agenda on young children and they are wrong to do so. It is not right for the school system to say that homosexuality is good or moral – as it is not their place to say that it isn’t.

  2. Annie said,

    February 8, 2008 at 9:08 am

    These are the types of attitudes that warped my relationship with God for so many years… all about guilt and condemnation and missing the entire point of love, joy, grace and relationship. It’s a Pharisaical approach… anyone know if that’s really a word?

  3. AtypicalGuy said,

    February 10, 2008 at 8:10 am

    Jonolan – thanks for your comment. I wonder, though: You state that schools are attempting to push a “homosexual agenda”. Who is behind that? Is it a conspiracy of some high-ranking gay people? Or, is it the logical follow-on to teaching open-minded, objective thought? Remember, a few decades ago in the United States, most people thought it was perfectly fine to think of black people as inferior to white people. Saying otherwise would have been considered a “Negro sympathizer” agenda (or something just as “colorful”). Denouncing homosexual people is no better, and I hope we outgrow that, too.

    Perhaps it’s not the role of our government to teaching “morality” (something that’s a moving target and most certainly doesn’t come from religion). But I don’t think that education and morality are mutually exclusive. I don’t think it’s possible to push an agenda of discrimination while at the same time claiming to inform and educate our children.

  4. AtypicalGuy said,

    February 10, 2008 at 8:18 am

    Annie – thanks for your comment. I have heard similar comments fairly often in the past and wanted to take the opportunity to respond. The gist of the idea is that God and religion are good, but that it’s fallible people who get it “wrong”. I have to disagree with that. The scriptures quoted in the comic strip are accurate (as far as I know), and can’t just be dismissed. The idea that the Christian God is a loving and good person is just one interpretation of the Bible, and there’s far more to suggest that he’s homophobic, violent, and vengeful. These aren’t “optional” tennets of the faith, but rather core portions of scripture.

    My point is that I don’t believe that people get their morality from religion. In fact, it’s quite the opposite in most cases. As we evolve as humans, our ideas of right and wrong also improve. While Jesus might have been a decent teacher for his time, many of his ideas are outdated and have been superceded by our modern ideas of right and wrong. For example, until a hundred years ago, it was extremely rare for anyone to use the Bible as evidence that slavery is wrong. Ideas such as treating women as property and enslaving others are even present in the Ten Commandments. Apparently, God approves. But we (well, most of us) know better.

    Just as people often quote Shakespeare to help make their own point more forcefully, I think we do the same with religion. We know what’s right and what’s wrong, and we try to pretend the Bible and Christian faith back that up. This comic, in my opinion, is not an outrageous expression of some religious extremists. I think it’s enevitable for people who truly follow their faith. I hope the answer to that conundrum is obvious. 🙂

  5. jonolan said,

    February 10, 2008 at 8:18 am

    AtypicalGuy,

    It is a “logical follow-on to teaching open-minded, objective thought,” but it is a case where it has been taken way to far and become exactly what it was meant to stop. Telling people their WRONG for following their religion is just as discriminatory as telling people that they’re WRONG for being homosexual.

    At most the schools should only be able to say that it illegal to discriminate against homosexuals. This isn’t a direct analogy to the Civil Rights battles of the past because there’s different components involved – behavior and religion.

    Now I hope we outgrow the hatred as well, but undercutting the family and the teaching of the family is not the way to go about it.

  6. MA said,

    February 18, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    I believe that today society, the goverment, the school system are all trying to conveince people against the Bible. I am in school my self at this time and I have been researching for my speech and my position is that if you teach evolution(a theory) you should also teach creationism and other techinicially theories of how the earth was created. which is the same as the homosexuality position people say oh its okay but they are trying to shove it down our throats. Children are CONSTANTLY seeing gay or lesbian couples kissing on T.V. or even worse. Teachers and schools should not express their oppinions on homosexuality or any other subjects. I had one teacher who wouldn’t either tell me what his personal beliefs were. ALL teachers and school administratiors should be like that and neither condone or disallow such behavior. Yes I personaly think its worng but it is also wrong to judge.


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